Electrolyser Modelling
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(17-05-2019, 10:24 PM)Antti-L Wrote: Yes, I understand you are a beginner.  I am happy to try and help beginners on this Forum when I have time (that is in my free time; am I not getting paid for giving this kind of help).

So, in the beginning of this long thread I gave you an example for defining partial load efficiencies. In the example I suggested using ACT_EFF(NRG), which would have worked perfectly, but you chose not to follow my suggestion. Then you came back and complained that the model does not work...  So, seems like I wasted my time?

The primary group (PCG) defines the activity in terms of some process flows.  Assume that the NRG outputs define the activity. In that case the shadow side is the input side. For defining the process transformation, you then also need to define the relation on that other side, i.e. between the main process flows on the shadow side and the activity. This is what ACT_EFF does.  And that's why in ACT_EFF you specify how much activity is produced per one unit of flow(s) of a single commodity or group of commodities on the shadow side, not on the PCG side.

So, for example, specifying ACT_EFF(NRG)=0.6 would define that 0.6 units of activity is produced per 1 unit of NRG inputs. Similarly, specifying ACT_EFF(ELC)=0.4 would define that 0.4 units of activity is produced per 1 unit of ELC input.

In this context, your ACT_EFF(HYGNtc)=0.017288462 would seem to be meaningless, because HYGNtc is not an input commodity (it is not on the shadow side).  But defining such is nonetheless supported for the special purpose I have described (as a multiplier for defining differentiated efficiencies for each PCG commodity produced). But if you define such, you cannot model partial load efficiencies (that's the documented limitation of the current implementation).

For the other question, please see my suggestion below. Feel free to disregard my  suggestion, and try something else.
Hello Antti,

I have a question on electrolyser modelling.

1) In TIMES, by default, an existing or newly installed capacity gets decommissioned gradually till the end of it's life time. However, in reality this is not the case. How is this justified? I find problem because of this representation since I am also trying to represent electrolyser stack reinvestment every 7 years. Because I wanted a new investment for the stack (same capacity as new electrolyser capacity) whenever a new capacity of electrolyser is investment. I feel that to represent this correctly, only option for me is to delay the decommissioning of the electrolysers till the end of their life. what do you think about this approach? I hope this can be done by using NCAP_DLAG, right? 

Thanks & Regards
Abi Afthab
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Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 08-04-2019, 02:43 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 08-04-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Pernille.S - 08-04-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 09-04-2019, 03:10 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 11-04-2019, 05:54 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 02-05-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 02-05-2019, 08:26 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 02-05-2019, 09:03 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 02-05-2019, 09:36 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 03-05-2019, 03:11 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 03-05-2019, 03:55 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 09-05-2019, 02:24 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 10-05-2019, 02:08 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 10-05-2019, 02:20 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 05-05-2019, 11:21 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 06-05-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Pernille.S - 06-05-2019, 05:58 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 06-05-2019, 07:51 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Pernille.S - 07-05-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Pernille.S - 08-05-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 08-05-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Pernille.S - 08-05-2019, 02:35 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 09-05-2019, 03:19 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 09-05-2019, 03:27 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 09-05-2019, 07:32 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 09-05-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 10-05-2019, 01:28 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 10-05-2019, 02:55 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 10-05-2019, 07:03 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 10-05-2019, 02:48 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 10-05-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 17-05-2019, 12:54 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 12-05-2019, 04:31 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 15-05-2019, 09:00 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 15-05-2019, 10:32 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 17-05-2019, 02:20 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 17-05-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 17-05-2019, 01:50 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 17-05-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 17-05-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 17-05-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 17-05-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 17-05-2019, 10:24 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 17-05-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 06-06-2019, 02:16 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 18-05-2019, 09:35 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 19-05-2019, 02:38 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 18-05-2019, 11:17 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 18-05-2019, 11:59 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 19-05-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 19-05-2019, 01:15 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Anjana - 19-05-2019, 01:19 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 19-05-2019, 01:34 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 06-06-2019, 10:25 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 12-06-2019, 02:58 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 12-06-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 06-07-2019, 01:15 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 06-07-2019, 04:06 AM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 08-07-2019, 02:44 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 08-07-2019, 04:11 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 08-07-2019, 04:18 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 08-07-2019, 05:34 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by Antti-L - 08-07-2019, 06:09 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 08-07-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: Electrolyser Modelling - by MohammedAbiAfthab - 29-08-2019, 05:17 PM

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